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Witnessing a break-in

10 October 2007

Last night I had a tricky decision to make. I left my apartment to catch the lift upstairs to lend some clothes to a friend. While waiting for the lift to come, I looked out the window noticed something strange going on down on the street.

Three young people, a girl and two boys, ran along the street and stopped next to a car. "There's heaps of cars here", the girl said. One of the boys looked out while the other two crouched down next to the car and used tools to break in to the car. It was a similar situation to what I saw when I came across two older men breaking into my car a few months ago.

I heard one of them say, "There's someone up there". He was probably talking about me, I thought, so I backed away from the window and pulled out my mobile to call the police.

Then I stopped. What would it achieve to call the police? The kids would definitely be gone by the time the police got there. I wouldn't be able to identify them in any confident way because our street isn't lit. All that would happen is that I'd have a conversation with a policeman about a crime I didn't really see very well, unable to identify the perpetrators.

So I put my phone away and took the lift upstairs to drop off the clothes. The crew outside continued their work as I entered the lift. By the time I came back down, only a few minutes later, the group had disappeared.

I'm still not sure whether I did the right thing. Am I too cynical of the police response? Some might argue that deciding whether a crime is worth pursuing is someone else's decision, not mine.

 
Posted by Tom Davies at 2007-10-10 10:50:40
You live near Wooloomooloo don’t you? I think it would be worth reporting. Perhaps the police will recognise the perpetrators from your description, search them, and find stolen goods. Perhaps they’ll find them breaking into another car. Perhaps they’ll spend more time patrolling your street if you’re a squeakier wheel. I’m cynical about the response too, but I think the minor investment is worthwhile.
 
Posted by Jus at 2007-10-10 11:19:24
I would call the cops regardless. Yep, they won’t make it there in time, and they wouldn’t really be able to do anything about it. Small crime in the inner-city sucks, I think a large percentage of people have had it happen to us.

Think about the guy whose car was robbed, he is going to place a police report, they ‘would’ of linked it up to your call, especially if you gave them the cars rego. These kids will probably do the same thing again with the same group of ‘friends’, if they are caught next time it is possible the police ‘might’ be able to link the crimes.

Also ask yourself this: would it be weighing on your conscious now? I don’t think so. I think your blog post may of taken a very different tact otherwise.

Jus
 
Posted by Matt Ryall at 2007-10-10 15:43:15
Thanks for the thoughts. Perhaps I’m overly cynical from previous events.

My car has been broken into several times, but nothing is ever stolen because the car is empty. I imagine the same is true for most residents in our street. I’ve never contacted the police about the break-ins because there hasn’t been anything stolen, just some broken locks and door handles.

The other situation was when I was mugged in Hyde Park. The police asked lots of questions about the guys who did it, but it was dark and I couldn’t give them a lot of information despite spending about an hour answering their questions. They told me there might be a camera nearby that they could get information from. In the end, nothing was done; my report would be one of the many filed by the city police about such crimes.

To me these crimes really represent a social problem not something that can be improved so easily.

My decision hasn’t been weighing on my conscience actually. My choice doesn’t make a big difference in the scheme of things. I just thought it was an interesting situation to write about.
 
Posted by Jens Schumacher at 2007-10-11 02:37:04
I was in a similar situation a few years ago when I came back from watching a movie with my brother and we interrupted two guys trying to steal fuel from a car on a park & ride. They ran when they saw us, but we called the police and within minutes they arrived and tracked down the thieves in the bushes around the park & ride.

Of course it might have been luck that they were dumb enough to stick around. But even though it is hassle (we were ordered to court to testify), it’s worth the effort if it helps making the area you live in a saver place.

Cheers,
Jens
 
Posted by Rai at 2007-11-01 15:49:59
Something similar happened to me. I was in the office late on a Saturday and saw a shop in the neighbouring building being broken into. Long story short, I called the police, gave them the make and rego of the getaway car, a description of the two people. While they kept me on the line, they came back and went into the shop for more things. The police showed up about 10 mins after the second getaway and had a look. I went down in case they wanted to ask me questions, but they weren’t very responsive and waved me away. From what I gather, the perpetrators haven’t been caught.

I understand your reasoning Matt. I didn’t think twice about calling the police that night, but at the same time, the whole thing seemed like a futile attempt. As far as I know, none of the people I know who have been at the receiving end of a crime has had their perpetrators caught. So it’s hard to say if what you do has any positive or negative impact.
 
Posted by Meraj at 2007-12-06 04:33:23
A car parked in our apartment’s basement garage was being broken into yesterday (Nov 05, 2007)

There were three people sitting in a get-way-car idling next to the parked car in which a fourth person was inside, likely attempting to start.

When my car entered the basement garage, the fourth person jumped out of the parked car and quickly went into their get-away-car and, along with the other three people, and slowly drove away. I managed to make a note of their car color, make, model, license plate, and the general appearance of the people involved. However, this would also indicate they were able to notice the same details about me and my car considering there were four sets of eyes on their side.

After a couple minutes I returned to the parked car and looking through the drivers’ side window of the parked car I noticed that the plastic panel below the steering wheel was removed and was located on the passenger seat. The steering wheel column including the ignition area below the steering wheel was exposing wires, all pointing to signs of attempts to start the car.

I thought of reporting this incident, however after some though, I did not see any benefit and a possibility of retaliation by the suspects if they were caught, since they likely saw my car and other details of me as well. Insurance covers such types of break-ins so the owner of the parked car would likely be fully compensated.

I did a license plate check from our transportation ministry’s website and noticed the plate did not match the description of the car that I saw was being used as the get-away-car indicating the plates did not belong to the car. Therefore the information I had would likely be of little help to the police.

In my situation, I decided not to report this incident, at this time.
 
Posted by How Awful at 2007-12-20 10:49:50
There’s two things here - one is the act of reporting crime and other is the process of getting crime solved. Just because there’s no certainty that Police can solve the crime, doesn’t mean you don’t report it. Reporting does a couple of things, first: it shows those kids that when someone does see them, the Police get told. It shows that people do care about what happens to one another in their town. The other is that it helps to build up a profile of a given area and its typical behaviours for use in law enforcement strategies. Not passing on the information is the same as sticking your head in the sand. I agree that if you had reported it, probably nothing would have been resolved in the short term and in that particular case (though it is a possibility). But the wider picture is what you need to consider, if you want to live with people in a community. I was really heartbroken to read this posting. It’s like you’ve just completely lost your care for others and just went on with your own things. Is that what Sydney has become? Have you ever heard of broken windows theory? You’re right in the middle of that - it seems to me.

The same attitude (what can I do? What will the Police do?) is why children are starved to death or people are put in suitcases and no one notices it or cares. If no other justification is sufficient for you, surely it’s enough that just because you feel you can’t get anything done, doesn’t mean you don’t stop trying.
 

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